Comments on: Monday Meditation #42 http://transformatum.com/2007/08/06/monday-meditation-42/ Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:23:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Scott http://transformatum.com/2007/08/06/monday-meditation-42/comment-page-1/#comment-14660 Scott Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:37:48 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/08/06/monday-meditation-42/#comment-14660 Batch, sorry for the delay in responding to your question. Excellence (as defined by doing your best) is not what I mean by a business model approach. A good example of what I have in mind is this: Our church is not committed to programs. While we do have programs, we don't necessarily have all of the "standard programs" going on all of the time. What we <em>are</em> committed to is discipleship. Any program we enact is in the context of our calling to make disciples. It's also contingent upon the Lord to provide the necessary people, means and resources. Sometimes the difference can be subtle, but it's very easy to forget that Christ is the head of the Church and that it is God who is building his Kingdom (not those of us in leadership). Batch, sorry for the delay in responding to your question. Excellence (as defined by doing your best) is not what I mean by a business model approach. A good example of what I have in mind is this: Our church is not committed to programs. While we do have programs, we don’t necessarily have all of the “standard programs” going on all of the time. What we are committed to is discipleship. Any program we enact is in the context of our calling to make disciples. It’s also contingent upon the Lord to provide the necessary people, means and resources. Sometimes the difference can be subtle, but it’s very easy to forget that Christ is the head of the Church and that it is God who is building his Kingdom (not those of us in leadership).

]]> By: Batch http://transformatum.com/2007/08/06/monday-meditation-42/comment-page-1/#comment-14625 Batch Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:09:21 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/08/06/monday-meditation-42/#comment-14625 I like the Spurgeon quote. "I also think that this expansion trap can be seen in many churches that are caught up in trying to build the kingdom by worldly means (i.e., taking a business model approach)." What exactly do you have in mind here? Are there aspects of church life in which a "business model approach" might be appropriate? What ways do you think are inappropriate? I see both sides of this (i.e. some churches would do well to demand excellence like many businesses do, but some churches would do well to be less business like). Curious about your thoughts. B I like the Spurgeon quote.

“I also think that this expansion trap can be seen in many churches that are caught up in trying to build the kingdom by worldly means (i.e., taking a business model approach).”

What exactly do you have in mind here? Are there aspects of church life in which a “business model approach” might be appropriate? What ways do you think are inappropriate? I see both sides of this (i.e. some churches would do well to demand excellence like many businesses do, but some churches would do well to be less business like).

Curious about your thoughts.

B

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