Comments on: Monday Meditation #38: Christ Over Doctrine http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/ Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:51:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Papa had Some Rolling Stones at Transformatum http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14177 Papa had Some Rolling Stones at Transformatum Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:07:11 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14177 [...] a week after it began (within a half-hour’s time), my ordeal is finally over.  Mick, as I am calling it, is a [...] [...] a week after it began (within a half-hour’s time), my ordeal is finally over.  Mick, as I am calling it, is a [...]

]]> By: Scott http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14153 Scott Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:02:28 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14153 @Debbie: I like yogurt, but I could do without it. I haven't eaten it as much since Breyer's changed their recipe to make it "smoother and creamier." And while I hope it isn't coffee (if it's a dietary root cause), then I sure hope that it isn't something like peanut butter, or worse...beer! @Ben: Yeah, that last line sort of crystalized it for me (esp. with regard to the danger in my denomination to elevate doctrine and make it an idol). <blockquote post="952">We desire to put Christ over the head of the doctrine, we make the doctrine the throne for Christ to sit on, but we dare not put Christ at the bottom, and then press him down, and overload him with the doctrines of his own word.</blockquote> @Debbie: I like yogurt, but I could do without it. I haven’t eaten it as much since Breyer’s changed their recipe to make it “smoother and creamier.” And while I hope it isn’t coffee (if it’s a dietary root cause), then I sure hope that it isn’t something like peanut butter, or worse…beer!

@Ben: Yeah, that last line sort of crystalized it for me (esp. with regard to the danger in my denomination to elevate doctrine and make it an idol).

We desire to put Christ over the head of the doctrine, we make the doctrine the throne for Christ to sit on, but we dare not put Christ at the bottom, and then press him down, and overload him with the doctrines of his own word.

]]> By: Ben G. http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14147 Ben G. Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:06:34 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14147 Well, this is on topic regarding the post but off topic regarding the comments ;) but I've always heard that we should hold our doctrine loosely and hold Christ firmly. Well, this is on topic regarding the post but off topic regarding the comments ;) but I’ve always heard that we should hold our doctrine loosely and hold Christ firmly.

]]> By: Debbie http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14146 Debbie Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:56:41 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14146 Shoot at least if it's coffee, then you know and make an informed decision whether to cut back or not. It could be something perfectly innocuous that you won't miss....like yogurt or something..LOL Sounds like you expect it to be something you just have to have!!!! Shoot at least if it’s coffee, then you know and make an informed decision whether to cut back or not. It could be something perfectly innocuous that you won’t miss….like yogurt or something..LOL Sounds like you expect it to be something you just have to have!!!!

]]> By: Scott http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14143 Scott Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:13:35 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14143 <blockquote post="952">a kidney stone a year seems like a small price to pay for the joy of drinking coffee!</blockquote> Of course, I say this BEFORE waking up at 4:00 AM with a knife twisting in my abdomen. I never said I actually passed the stone yet. :|

a kidney stone a year seems like a small price to pay for the joy of drinking coffee!

Of course, I say this BEFORE waking up at 4:00 AM with a knife twisting in my abdomen. I never said I actually passed the stone yet. :|

]]> By: Scott http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14142 Scott Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:09:38 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14142 I know there are tests, but after a consultation I just haven't felt it was worth it (at the time) to go see a specialist (maybe that'll change). One of the drawbacks of identifying a dietary culprit is that if you eliminate one thing (say coffee) then there's a chance one might pick up an unhealthier habit (something to take the place of the caffeine). I'm not suggesting that coffee is my problem (i.e., it could be meat or dairy or something totally unrelated and/or hereditary), but a kidney stone a year seems like a small price to pay for the joy of drinking coffee! :D I know there are tests, but after a consultation I just haven’t felt it was worth it (at the time) to go see a specialist (maybe that’ll change). One of the drawbacks of identifying a dietary culprit is that if you eliminate one thing (say coffee) then there’s a chance one might pick up an unhealthier habit (something to take the place of the caffeine).

I’m not suggesting that coffee is my problem (i.e., it could be meat or dairy or something totally unrelated and/or hereditary), but a kidney stone a year seems like a small price to pay for the joy of drinking coffee! :D

]]> By: Debbie http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14140 Debbie Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:25:41 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14140 I know there is a test that can be done on the actual kidney stones to determine which mineral causes them. There is a secretary here who has had ongoing problems over the years and they were able to identify her culprit....She can't drink tea anymore, but she doesn't have the problems she used to have. I know there is a test that can be done on the actual kidney stones to determine which mineral causes them. There is a secretary here who has had ongoing problems over the years and they were able to identify her culprit….She can’t drink tea anymore, but she doesn’t have the problems she used to have.

]]> By: Scott http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14139 Scott Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:39:55 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14139 @Greg: We don't have a family history of prostate issues, but I do get a physical every year (cough). But my uncle had a bunch of kidney stones around the same age. I've not yet seen a urologist, mainly because my regular physician hasn't pushed it. Apparently there can be five or six types of kidney stones, so isolating it to something dietary isn't as easy as it sounds. However, one of my doctor's nurses swears by vinegar. She had 14 stones and then started drinking shots of vinegar once a day. Hasn't had one since! I could try that, but can you imagine going through all that yuck only to still get a stone?!? Maybe an aged balsamic would be okay? @Debbie: You had no idea what was going on when you left those messages, so no worries (if I'm interpreting the above correctly). I won't yell...promise. @Greg: We don’t have a family history of prostate issues, but I do get a physical every year (cough). But my uncle had a bunch of kidney stones around the same age. I’ve not yet seen a urologist, mainly because my regular physician hasn’t pushed it. Apparently there can be five or six types of kidney stones, so isolating it to something dietary isn’t as easy as it sounds. However, one of my doctor’s nurses swears by vinegar. She had 14 stones and then started drinking shots of vinegar once a day. Hasn’t had one since! I could try that, but can you imagine going through all that yuck only to still get a stone?!? Maybe an aged balsamic would be okay?

@Debbie: You had no idea what was going on when you left those messages, so no worries (if I’m interpreting the above correctly). I won’t yell…promise.

]]> By: Debbie http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14138 Debbie Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:56:45 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14138 Stupid is as stupid does...man do I feel stupid...Why don't you call and yell at me? Stupid is as stupid does…man do I feel stupid…Why don’t you call and yell at me?

]]> By: Baus http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-14137 Baus Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:21:14 +0000 http://transformatum.com/2007/03/19/monday-meditation-38-christ-over-doctrine/#comment-14137 Sorta off topic... I've heard that magnesium, B6, and (organic) flax oil are good "remedies" for kidney stones. It could be voodoo propaganda, but it's something to research if you haven't already. I'll be looking into it more myself. BTW, how's your prostate? My dad's isn't doing too good, and his dad's wasn't so good. Mine will probably have trouble. Have you looked into prevention and treatment of prostate issues? Sorta off topic…
I’ve heard that magnesium, B6, and (organic) flax oil are good “remedies” for kidney stones.
It could be voodoo propaganda, but it’s something to research if you haven’t already. I’ll be looking into it more myself.

BTW, how’s your prostate? My dad’s isn’t doing too good, and his dad’s wasn’t so good. Mine will probably have trouble. Have you looked into prevention and treatment of prostate issues?

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